Audio recording emerges of Fatma Nur Çelik, who was abused by a member of the Kuran’a Hizmet Foundation, being threatened: 'Muslims will wash their hands of you'

It was determined that the two bodies found on the Kazlıçeşme coast in Istanbul's Zeytinburnu district belonged to 30-year-old Fatma Nur Çelik and her 8-year-old daughter, Hifa İkra Şengüler. Çelik, who had been abused by Ayhan Şengüler, had said during the days she held a vigil for justice, "If something happens to me, do not call it suicide."

The hearing of the case in which Kuran’a Hizmet Foundation member Ayhan Şengüler is being tried on charges of abusing his wife, Fatma Nur Çelik, and his daughter, Hifa İkra, will be held at the Anatolian Courthouse on Tuesday, May 5 (today).

'IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT DOES NOT LEAK OUT'

An audio recording that reached 12punto and is alleged to belong to Fatma Nur Çelik contains a conversation between two people and Çelik.

At the beginning of the recording, Çelik says, "My family did not consent to this marriage, Ayhan's family did not consent, and I did not consent," and adds, "I will speak openly. I am no longer at a level where I will remain silent. Because there is nothing left to be silent about." Meanwhile, a person from the group who says, "I am one of those who even carried the food at your wedding," and "I am one of your marriage witnesses," uses expressions such as, "Ayhan works for minimum wage. Ayhan doesn't even have insurance. You cannot claim anything, you cannot even get 5 cents."

On the other hand, in response to Çelik's words, "This incident did not happen only to me in this family. In the same way, his brother-in-law did this to a niece, his own niece. That's how things work for them," the same person replies, "There might have been some filth in their own internal affairs, and they might have done something like this to cover up this filth. Their families are very extreme. It is very important that it does not leak out, you know. Perhaps something was done because of this."

'WHAT DOORS WILL OPEN FOR YOU'

Continuing, when Çelik asks, "What will I do with my child?" Person 1 responds to the question with another question: "Am I the one who will help you, or is it Allah?" After Çelik answers, "Allah," the person continues his words as follows:

"Look, you say we are people who have faith. Think like this. If you act as a Muslim woman, a believing woman should act, and instead of choosing me, Ahmet, Mehmet, Ayşe, or Fatma as your guardian - God forbid - you choose Allah, the Lord of the worlds, look at what doors will open for you. Look, let me say it again, if both sides think, 'Okay, for the sake of our child and because we fear Allah... There are some problems, we wish to continue this marriage and appear before Allah in a clean way,' and if this matter is reconsidered with such an intention, will it return to normal, my sister? You tell me that."

'THEY WILL NOT HELP YOU, THEY ARE MY CONGREGATION'

When Çelik states that Ayhan Şengüler told her, "They will not help you, they are my congregation," it is heard that Person 2 says, "If this incident you experienced was known to this state, were you going to go to a municipality and complain? Look at what a ridiculous situation. We can multiply these examples. It is ridiculous for a nurse who is a civil servant in this state to complain about the hospital instead of the doctor when she experiences the same process with a doctor working in the same hospital. Everyone laughs at this. Do you know what the result of this is? It automatically gives that hospital and that municipality the right to file a lawsuit against these people for extra criminal complaints for damaging their own institutions."

"MUSLIMS WILL WASH THEIR HANDS OF YOU"

Then the same person says, "I am speaking openly with decency, look. I have many lawyer brothers, judge brothers. Let me tell you clearly, when you enter into such a business, just as this business will turn completely against you, it will also incite the anger of the Muslims who are trying to protect you. Look, I am telling you the result of this business." He used expressions and continued, "I did not come for the institution. Look, pay attention, I am just saying that after such a process is experienced, Muslims will inevitably wash their hands of you. That is, a behavior that will block the tolerance and help you will receive from Muslims. I am telling you what I have heard, my sister. Our only goal here is not related to the institution, I don't care; you can complain wherever you want, you can take it to any television station you want, you can go to any police station, to any police officer you want. I am not interested in that subject at all. We did not come for this. The only thing I am trying to explain is; the fact that when you do such a thing, the business will only turn against you. Look, think about this. You can go wherever you want if you have such an intention. It does not concern us at all," using threatening language.

Person 1 intervenes and similarly threatens Çelik by saying, 'You are alienating Muslims from yourself and pushing them away':

"While this was a matter that would remain hidden in our own area, it is being moved here, and the matter is reaching my ears in other places. This matter should not be moved. As it is moved, then neither the curtain of life remains nor does anything remain for us. We recommend this, but I see, sister, that with these steps taken, you are truly alienating Muslims from yourself and pushing the Muslim away from you," he says.

'LAWS OF THE FILTHY SYSTEM'

In the continuation of his speech, the person targets the judiciary and the laws of the Republic of Turkey with the term 'filth' and begins to speak as follows:

"If what you say is a lie, it is slander; if it is true, it is his mistake; with Allah's permission, you will both account for it after that hour. Now look, this brother has given you the necessary threat, but I do not know the scholarly thing like these brothers. Where is the place you will go? The laws of the filthy system. The laws of that filthy system say; 'In such a situation, there is nothing I can do.'"

In the continuation:

"For the sake of Allah, until you establish a new home, even if such a thing happens, we will do what is necessary regarding your livelihood. Know one-on-one that the other issue of complaint and so on will turn against you. Take it as advice, take it as a brother's recommendation, take it as a threat, take it however you want, but do not speak in this language. Let it remain within yourself," he uses the expressions.

'YOU ARE MY SLAVE, I MANAGE YOU'

"At the very beginning, while entering into this action, we said; every step you take has a result and you will definitely bear the reasons for this because you are taking this step. Now, the Prophet (PBUH) says 'A Muslim does not say I wish,' but we will put our mistakes in front of us so as not to do it again, so maybe we will say 'I wish' again while expressing it, but if it had not been reflected to the public, if this subject had not gone in front of so many people, if it had not spread here and there... What would happen now? It would be simpler and easier to handle this subject," says Person 2, to which Çelik replies, "My husband never allowed me to go out. He always isolated me. The reason is this; so that I would be dependent on him and could not go. He always used to say; 'You are my slave, I manage you.' This is very heavy for a woman and I reached the point of losing my mind. I am in such states, I cannot pull myself together. I came out of the hospital, my husband should have been by my side, but I could not get support from anyone in any way. A Muslim personality should not be like this. I took this lady, at least let our marriage continue in a correct way, not like this," she said.

However, Person 2 continued his words as follows: "If you sit in your house in a way that suits you, in a way that suits a believing woman, we are by your side. But no, if you are going to wander around here and there, if you are going to pursue other intentions, I say see the result of the behavior you will do. If you go to court, the court will tell you, look, I went to all of them, I talked, I got opinions from competent people, what happens? He said; 'Brother, it has been a 4-year marriage, there is a child in the middle, the court will not accept this in any way.' There is nothing he can do on behalf of the man - we didn't give a name. There is nothing."

'NOTHING WILL HAPPEN'

When Çelik said, "After I get divorced, I don't want to see Ayhan's face. I don't want his 5 cents either. I said it when you first came. I don't care about this man's money either. I worked for years and took care of my home. Everyone knows this. I don't want his 5 cents, he will not disturb my child. I said I would apply to the court saying I cannot give my child to such a person," Person 1 said, "If you act like this, if this happens here and there, Muslims will abandon you. One day, do not say; 'Oh look, they abandoned me too,'" while Person 2 said, "Let me take you to a lawyer, you explain the issue, he will explain the legal process to you, but nothing will happen. Because first; when a person sees difficulty, they will deny themselves. I am telling you the event that will happen. Second; when you deny it, the court will say to you, 'If there was such a thing, you are a healthy individual for 4 years, why didn't you tell this for 4 years?' Third; do you have an eyewitness, a witness, visual or auditory evidence regarding this? You don't, right? Look, I learned all of these," he uses the expressions.

In the Investigation Document, which 12punto reached and in which it was decided that there was no room for prosecution on behalf of the public, the phrase "As can be understood from the law enforcement records, there is no camera or witness who saw the moment of the incident" was included. While the inclusion of this article regarding an abuse crime alleged to have been committed inside the house caused reactions, it was noteworthy that the phrase "...do you have visual or auditory evidence?" was used in Person 2's audio recording.

'THE SYSTEM DOES NOT ACCEPT THIS'

In response to Çelik, who stated that the reason for her silence for 4 years was related to being threatened by Ayhan Şengüler, Person 2 says, "My sister, the system does not accept this. Ayhan will say; 'I did not threaten.' Now a home of ours has been broken, I am telling you, look, our home has been broken, our peace has been disturbed. You are right in your case based on the things you told, but this system will not accept these things you told. You are missing this, look."

'THE STATE DOES NOT CARE'

Opening the subject from Çelik's three suicide attempts, Person 1 says, "Look, my sister, I say you talk too much, but listen to me. You said court, the moment you go to court, they will automatically give this child to Ayhan because of that. I know these, you don't understand. Look, you are still saying; 'Let it get out of my head, my psychology is broken,'" while Person 2 says, "A child is not handed over to someone whose psychology is broken. Look, I am not speaking on behalf of Ayhan, I am telling you; I am saying that a wrong move you make will unfortunately make you guilty according to the laws of this system, look, you don't understand this. Everything will turn against you, it seems so. When Allah (SWT), the Lord of the worlds, comes as both witness and judge in the Great Court, no one will have anywhere to run anyway. We will not have any responsibility, we will not have anything to say before Allah (SWT). But I am trying to explain to you the things that may come before you when you act according to this system, look, pay attention. I want your victimization not to turn into a greater victimization. Look, pay attention, while your brothers and sisters are by your side, try to think in a truly healthy way. Allah (SWT) says; 'If you are patient, if you wear the garment of piety, if you live your life on piety, Allah will provide for you from where you do not expect.' From where you do not expect. Allah opens such a door for you, he turns the life he made a dungeon for 4 years into a paradise for 40 years for you. To reach this patience, you need to think in a healthy way. Look, it has become an obsession for you. Let me tell you the obsession in you; 'How can a man who has oppressed me this much live his life comfortably from now on?' Oh, what do I care about Ayhan, sister. I am thinking about you. I don't care about Ayhan in the slightest. I don't have Islamic power in my hand to take Ayhan, put him on the rack, break his mouth and nose. If I did this, if that man went and complained, they would take me inside. When he said, 'This man beat me, why? There is a problem between my wife and me,' the state would say to me; 'Who are you? Who are you?' I cannot do this. On the other hand, the state doesn't care about such a thing anyway," he says.

'WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO MEET WITH ANYONE'

Additionally, Person 1 says, "Coming and going is a right given by Allah, you will meet with your brothers, you will chat, do something else, do a lesson, do whatever comes to your mind. You are also a human, you also carry a soul, you also have desires like socializing, sometimes going out, sometimes buying something and eating what you want, or sometimes buying something for yourself, like we all want, you also carry a soul, you will also do these things. That is a separate issue. Regarding this subject and for the sake of Allah, I do not want you to meet with anyone, we do not want it. Do not meet. Look, a person can sometimes follow the wrong path by being provoked by the whispers of the devil, while going towards something by being right, you go to things that should not be, the right thing you do returns to you as a very big trouble, you may not be aware of it," he speaks.

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