Minutes of AKP, MHP, and DEM's Imrali visit read for the first time: Here is what was discussed during the visit

The TBMM National Solidarity, Brotherhood, and Democracy Commission has completed its 19th meeting. The AKP-MHP and DEM Party deputies' PKK terro ristTheminutes preparedafter the meeting heldwithringleaderÖcalan summary was read in the process commission. The DEM Partyexpresseditsreaction to the readingof the summaryof the meeting held with Öcalan.

In the TBMM The National Solidarity,Brotherhood, and Democracy Commission met today(December 4)with the AKP, MHP, and DEM Party delegation consisting of three members of parliamentto discuss the Imrali visit and the final reportagenda. A summary of the minutesprepared after the Imrali delegation's visit was read. summary was read in the process commission. In a statement madeafterthecommission's meeting, DEM Party referred to the PKKterrororganization asterror leader Öcalan, the minutes of the meeting were read. the reading of the summarywas met with reactions,stating that "Öcalan'smeeting with the commission delegationcontentof thediscussionwas partiallybeing conveyed in fragments, incompletely, and with subjective interpretations;above all else, it carries the riskof narrowingand opening up to debateÖcalan'shistorical rolein this process," it was stated.

Parliament Speaker Numan Kurtulmuş, in the second part of the meeting held in the Parliament Ceremony Hall,in the second part of the meeting held in the Parliament Ceremony Hall,in the second part of the meeting held in the Parliament Ceremony Hall,in the second part of the meeting held in the Parliament Ceremony Hall,in accordance with the decision taken by a three-fifths qualified majority in the previous meeting, in accordance with the decision taken by a three-fifths qualified majority in the previous meeting,in accordance with the decision taken by a three-fifths qualified majority in the previous meeting, the representatives of the three political parties and the commission member deputies on November 24at the Imrali High-Security Penal Execution Institution, he responded tosomequestions from members of parliament regarding the meeting.

When one of the deputies asked whether the minutes of the meeting in questionwere recorded by parliamentary stenographers, Kurtulmuşstated, "No stenographer from the TBMM took part in the meeting there. Our colleagues' trips to Imrali were entirely organized by the MIT. The meetings there were also conducted under the control of the MIT. That is the natural course of events. They were also conducted previously in this way.as it was," he replied.

Stating that all general and politicalmattersthat the three deputies who were personally present at the meetings in Imrali confirmed were "yes, discussed"would be shared with the commission, Kurtulmuş said, "In other words, there will not be a single political issuethat was mentionedin Imrali about which one could say, 'No, why was this not brought up here?'" he stated.

Reminding that they had previously held meetings only with certain ministers behind closed doors, Kurtulmuş stated thatnothing was done in secret, that there was nothing to hide from the 51 members of the commission, and that no political issue discussed in Imraliwould be left off theagenda.

Subsequently, upon Kurtulmuş's instruction, the minutes were read by Deputy Secretary General of the TBMM, Ahmet Bozkurt, to the Commission. members, AKP Deputy Chairmanand Hatay Deputy Hüseyin Yayman, DEM Party Group DeputyChair Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, and MHP Deputy Chairman and Istanbul Deputy Feti Yıldız, regarding the visit to ImraliA summaryof the minutesregardingthe meeting was read.

HERE ARE THE MINUTES READ IN PARLIAMENT: THE MEETING WITH THE LEADER OF THE PKK TERRORIST ORGANIZATION ÖCALANDETAILS SUMMARYD

uring the meeting Öcalan primarily addressed the 100-year Turkish-Kurdish relatcontributed significantly to the relationship systematics with the words of MHP Chairman Devlet Bahceli, and that he showed a rare form of couragein the history of the Republic,expressing his gratitudeto him, andstated that hewas grateful, and regarding theprocess, he showedfor the courageto Mr.President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, expressed hisgratitude andthanks.He expressed hisgratitude.

ÖCALAN STOOD BY HIS WORDHE SAIDTHAT

Abdullah Öcalan stated that he standsby the promises he has made since the beginning of the process, and that if conditions permit, he has the theoretical and practical capacity torealizethis.stated that itwas conducivetoreconciliation. He provided a lengthy account of the historical background and, by referencing Ziya Gökalp, emphasized the importanceof Turkish-Kurdish brotherhood.

THE DISMANTLINGOF ALL PKKASSETS

Abdullah Öcalan stated that he has moved away fromarmedmethods andthat political methodsadopted the methodthat, on February 27 callwithin the framework of all structures,of the PKK'sall components,and the dissolution of organizational assetsand the announcement of laying down arms were well-received by society, that the public is following this development, and he stated that he is also influential in Syria and Iraq.

At this point, Feti Yıldız, noting that he was present as the lawyer for the families of the martyrs in the case in which Abdullah Öcalanwas convicted,reminded him of this,upon which Öcalan said, “I am the one who shook Devlet Bey’s hand ...I stand by thepromises I madeduring theprocess that beganwith the emergence of the situation,” he said.

HüseyinYayman, for his part, stated that he came here with the sensitivities of the families of the martyrs in mind.upon being told this, Abdullah Öcalan stated that every loss of a soldierwas a tragedy forhim, that he was never happy about it, and that youngpeople should not die in this way,expressing that theyshould not die like this.He statedthis. Tthat a solution must absolutely be reachedin Turkey and the region,andexpressed sadness regardingtheTUSAŞ attack.He stated.

It was stated to him that “using language from the periodbefore Lausanne and 1924is poisoning the process.”NEW CALL

REGARDING SYRIA

“It was stated thatwhen the Zapregion was being evacuated, the fact thatorganization members were armed caused public outrage, and it is observedthat the PKK did not fully comply with thecall made on this matter.”it was stated that it is essential for the SDF to comply with the March 10 agreement, and that a new callshould be made regarding Syria was conveyed to Öcalan.PKK MUST LAY DOWN ARMS

PKK MUST LAY DOWN ARMS

Stating that this state belongs to all of us, when saying 'lay down your arms,' the PKK'sentire existencecovered their components, and the PKK's withdrawalof its forces to Syriaof which there were observationsthat this situation was more than previous opwith statements contradictionswere created, and upon being toldthis, Öcalan stated that the PKKmust lay down not only its physical weapons but also its mental weapons.

HE DECLARED THAT HE IS READY TO SERVE THE STATEAND STANDS BEHINDHIS WORDS

Feti Yıldız stated that even during periods when news of martyrs arrived,no one broke the windows of their Kurdish neighbors,and despite so much pain, aKurdish-Turkishenmity never formed.

Upon this, Öcalan stated that he looks at the families of the martyrs with respect, and how deep their pain iswas significantand stated that he was aware of it, and in response to Devlet Bahçeli'sreminder in his speech of the phrase "I am ready to serve my state," he reminded him ofhis "go ahead" remark, stating in response that he stands by hiswords and that, if conditions permit, his theoretical and practical capabilities wouldallow for this.reiterated thatit isconduciveto development.

Regarding thestatementmade on February 27,the one year that has passed in the processsuccessful progressobservedthatduring this period, no martyrs were lost, he stated. Thus,a major political openingwas achieved, public support increased, and the questions in the public's mind would be addressed in the comingperiod.he has stated.

If a terror-free Turkey is to be realized, Turkey is expecting practical and concrete steps as statedUpon being asked, Öcalan stated that he is pursuingpositive moves and steps.

He noted that there was resistanceregardingconcrete steps, and that the organization shifting its centerfrom Qandil to the Syrian field would not solve the problem.stating that upon this, he, as the leader of the organization, needed to give definitive instructions for every fieldand that once these steps arerealized, a new climate would emerge.

Abdullah Öcalan alsosaid, "You have asked this question repeatedly," andthat he stands behind hiswords, and that heis putting forthevery effort for theprocess to reach a successfulconclusion.

FEDERATION, ADMINISTRATIVE AUTONOMYNO RECORD

February 27 in thecall, it was reiterated that there would be no separate state or federation, and no administrative autonomy or culturalist solutions,upon which Öcalan confirmed this by saying, "Yes, that is so,"he stated.

HE STATED THATSYRIAHAS ADOPTEDAFEDERALSTRUCTURE

.Regarding questions on Syria posed by Hüseyin Yayman,it was stated that they base their position on the March 10 agreement of the SDF, and that in the region, especially against Israel's moves,one must be very careful, and that for Syria,a unitary structureand local democracy are adopted.isit.

Regarding questions about whether there will be a local defenseforce, the answer given was“There is no defenseforce, they are forceswithin the scope of public order.In other words, like the police.”has given its approval.

IN THIS GEOGRAPHY, AKURD WITHOUT A TURK, A TURK WITHOUT A KURD CANNOTSURVIVE

Stating that in this geography, aKurd cannot survive without a Turk, and a Turk cannot survive without a Kurd,they provided a long historical narrative, referencing Sultan Sanjar to emphasize the historical significance of this unity.is.

STATED THAT THE PKK SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISBANDED IN 1993

Real socialism thought had been abandoned since 1995,and that a mental transfHe stated that it was apainful process,and that heshould havenormally disbanded the PKK in 1993, buthe saidthat someone sabotaged this initiative every single time,he said.it.

He defined this sabotageprocess as a coup mechanism, and from 1993 to the present, he stated that this coup mechanism was also effective in the failure of the indirectnegotiations with Özal, Demirel, and Erbakan to reach a conclusion.stated.DO YOU KNOW MAZLUM ABDI?

When asked, "Do you know Ferhat Abdi Sahin, does he listen to your instructions?"

Ocalan stated that he is someone close to him and is loyal to him. stated.stated.stated.stated.

He stated thatmaking claims that will nevercome true for Turkey wouldbe sabotaging theprocess.

Gülistan KılıçKoçyiğit asking, "I saw youin very goodhealth; do youhave anything to say regardingwomen's rights? conveyed Öcalan's greetingsto him.

Kurtulmuş concludedthemeeting after the minutes of the discussion were read.

REACTION FROM DEM PARTY

DEM Party members of the National Solidarity, Brotherhood, and Democracy Commission stated, "today's meetingstating that the Office of the Speaker of Parliament preferred to present a summarized text based on indirect narration to the commission and the public instead of sharing the full Imrali minutes, summarizedtext to the commission and the public," adding, "Thismethod does notensure that Öcalan's assessments are understood in a healthy andcomprehensivemanner, and instead leads to sentences taken out of context,selective emphases, and incomplete quospeculations based on manyspeculations.Therefore, we reiterate our demand that the entirety of the minutes be shared completely with the commission members,and that a transparent mechanism be implemented to ensure the public is accurately informed,once again."made the statement.

The party's commission members made a jointwritten statement. In the statement, it was stated that the commission's 19th meeting was held on the 'Joint Report Regarding Gdiscussions, with the agendas of “Presentation of Views” and “Reporting of the November 24 Imrali Visit”being carried out,it was stated, "In the context of the discussions regarding the November 24 Imrali visit, we feel the need to share our approach with the esteemed public once again."

The statement included the following:

- From the very beginning, this pAs a party that advocates that the process should be conductedaround the principles of transparency and participation,the meeting held in Imrali with Abdullah Öcalan on behalf of the Parliamentary Commissionwas alsoadiscussion.contentfaithful to itsin a comprehensive and objective manner with the publicthat it should be sharedwebelieve.

- In the resolution of such a historical issue, how manyThe point that must be understood is the internalization of 'secrecy' and 'transparency' as if they were opposing poles due to political calculations.internalizationof this.

- Transparency is thefundamental principle thatstrengthens the legitimacy and social ownership of the process.Peaceand Democratic Society Sthe main actor of the process, Öcalan, held a discussion with the commission delegation, the details of which arebeing conveyed in fragments, incompletely, and with subjective interpretations;above all else, it carries the risk ofnarrowing and opening up to debateÖcalan's historical rolein thisprocess.This, in turn, has been ongoing for over a yearit is contrary to the fundamental approachesof the ongoing process, the promisesmade, the definitionsprovided, and the responsibilities undertaken.

"Our member who went to the island was not involved in the preparationof this summary text."

- In the commission, we, as a party, also [believe] the Imrali minutes...as it was, we requested that it be shared with the public. However, despite our insistence, the Speaker's Office chose to present a summarized text based on an indirect account to both the commission and the public, rather than sharing the full minutes. The member of our delegation who went to the islandwas not involved in the preparation of this summary text. The Speaker's Office chose to present a summarized text based on an indirect account to both the commission and the public, rather than sharing the full minutes. The member of our delegation who went to the island was not involved in the preparation of this summary text.The Speaker's Office chose to present a summarized text based on an indirect account to both the commission and the public, rather than sharing the full minutes. The member of our delegation who went to the island was not involved in the preparation of this summary text.was not involved in the preparation of this summary text.

This method does not ensure that Öcalan's assessments are understood in a healthy and comprehensive manner, and instead leads to sentences taken out of context, selective emphases, and incomplete excerpts based on manyopens the door tospeculation.Disconnected from the overall context, subjectiveinterpretationsareopen, and prone to fuelingdebates.We reject everykind ofapproach.

- Forus,what is essential isto all parties of the processand to the societyhonest, consistent, and responsible language. We advocate for Öcalan’s words to be madevisible as they are and in their entirety, without being co-opted by anyone's political position or used as material forany intra-partypoliticalmaneuvering.

- For this reason, we reiterate our demand that all minutes be shared in full with commissionmembers, and that a transparent mechanism be implemented to ensure the public is accurately informedregarding this matter.

- The Peaceand Democratic Societyprocess should not be subjected topersonal interpretations, narrow political calculations, or decontextualizedit is a process too serious and historical to be leftto polemics conducted over sentences.We will continue to insist that an objective, transparent, andcomprehensive account be providedin a mannerconsistent with the essence, spirit, and social expectations of the process.