Striking 'Bahçeli' comment from Saadettin Tantan: "No one, including Bahçeli, can cover up the Sinan Ateş case"

Veteran journalist Tuncay Mollaveisoğlu's program 12'den hosted former Interior Minister Saadettin Tantan this week.

In response to Mollaveisoğlu's question, "How do you evaluate the state-mafia relations that began with Sedat Peker's revelations and re-emerged with the Ayhan Bora Kaplan case?" Tantan replied, "Is the political power's intention to serve the country or to serve itself? Such questions are also coming from among the public. When looking at these types of events, the current Interior Minister's work is particularly accepted by the public."

"NO ONE CAN CLOSE THAT MURDER CASE"

Regarding the Sinan Ateş file, which has recently returned to the agenda with Ayşe Ateş's statements, Tantan said, "May God have mercy on Sinan Ateş. His wife is also speaking very well and following the case. No one can close that murder, which has become a matter for the Turkish public. The public has claimed it, and we have all claimed it. It will definitely be brought to light; no one can cover it up."

The conversation between Mollaveisoğlu and Tantan is as follows:

-Is there a government curtain over that murder?

-The government is constantly trying to cover it up so it doesn't reflect on the public. Notice that they cannot cover it up. Because there is a public conscience. You cannot cover up the public conscience, you cannot close it with lies. You cannot do anything by using religion.

-An indictment was prepared. It was an indictment almost based on covering up the event and hiding the perpetrators.

-But they cannot hide it.

-Who is protecting them? Who is covering it up?

"NO ONE, INCLUDING BAHÇELİ, CAN COVER UP THE SİNAN ATEŞ CASE"

-No one can cover it up. Mr. Bahçeli wants to say something but cannot. Everyone knows that the leader of the nationalist movement cannot speak or act otherwise. An ideological view had formed that the nationalist movement would claim the country, but that no longer exists. There is a movement party that has lost its credibility in the eyes of the public. In that respect, no one, including Bahçeli, can cover up the Sinan Ateş case. We will also be followers of it.

THE AYHAN BORA KAPLAN FILE AND THE CONCEPT OF "ORGANIZED FEUDALISM"

-I would also like to talk about the Kaplan file. These two cases are shaping Turkish politics. When we look at the Kaplan file, we see that the police, the judiciary, and politics are intertwined with the mafia. There is a mafia leader there who has been protected and shielded. There is a change of seat in the Ministry of Interior. Soylu leaves, Yerlikaya arrives, and together with Ali Yerlikaya, we are watching a mafia operation every day. All the organized crime organization leaders of the world are in Turkey. There is a situation as if they have made Turkey their center. We see Ali Yerlikaya's operations against them. The Kaplan operation was one of them. An operation was also carried out against the police chiefs who carried out the operation against Kaplan. A game within a game like this. How do you see it?

-Turkey urgently needs to build its security architecture against organized crime feudal lords. In the new world order, it is not possible for a country to fight crime with security architects. Decisions are made regarding duty definitions and descriptions, such as how intelligence organizations should be structured, how law enforcement forces should be, and how armed forces should be. Turkey sees these within the framework of these decisions but does not put them into practice. For example, like the OECD's financial action task force, they constantly do not put them into practice, saying we have done it, we are doing it, we will do it. In that respect, do you know that any action against water, especially drinking water or stream water, is accepted as an urgent criminal offense? Any action taken against the pollution of water falls under terrorism crimes.

-If a factory pours its poison into the water, is it tried in a high criminal court? Like a terror crime?

-Like a terror crime, yes.

-You spoke very clearly about Ateş. You said the lady should also be at ease.

-In Bora Kaplan, there are 2 structures there regarding organized crime. One is the vertical and horizontal structuring of the team for the leader of the organized crime and his relatives in terms of a sense of belonging. The horizontal structure is mounted wherever those who will use it want. For example, in province X, those within that structure are temporary usage legs. Are they in Bora Kaplan? Yes, they are. Well, who did they use in those names used over time; there is the police, the judge, the judiciary. Who will reveal that in that structure; the public prosecutor. Who will provide support? The police and the gendarmerie. If the President does not want to accept the concept of organized crime feudalism internationally, he will intervene in this.

IS THERE A FIGHT BETWEEN SOYLU AND YERLİKAYA?

-You are saying that if the President does not want the label of organized crime feudalism, he should fight these structures. Özgür Özel had a statement. He says for Süleyman Soylu, "He was a minister who had a photo with every criminal"; it is seen that Ali Yerlikaya is carrying out operations against many structures that Soylu was in contact with. There is also a perception that this has caused a fight inside. Is there a conflict here? How do you see it?

-You know, the most important feature of the Turkish nation is archiving. Especially after Erdoğan's Habur incident, that archive has always been kept. If files and courts were established today, that archive would emerge. Let no one have any doubt about that. Everything is on record. It is necessary not to bring it to a conflict environment. Since Soylu is a politician, everyone may have entered the photo.

A politician's greatest weakness is that while walking among the public, an illegal person may want to take a photo and show off. Perhaps they can use it to reach money. Sedat Peker in Dubai explained the best example of this.

In the past, there are many names who have no action used by the intelligence organization, who are said to be saving Turkey by fighting against the PKK and Asala. None of them stood by the state. The true owners of the state; the members of the intelligence organization gave that struggle by risking death. They are nameless names. There are very qualified patriots who have written their names in golden letters in the armed forces, in law enforcement, and in the intelligence organization. Their names are hidden.

WHAT IS BEHIND THE OPERATIONS?

Regarding Minister Ali Yerlikaya's operations, Tantan continued his words as follows:

-There, the police organization, the gendarmerie organization, and the citizen provide information to the address they trust. In that respect, the citizen can also transfer information. I see that there. It carries out operations in that information flow.

Behind these operations is a flow of information based on trust.

IS THE REAL ARM WRESTLING BETWEEN ERDOĞAN AND SOYLU?

-Is the arm wrestling between Süleyman Soylu and Ali Yerlikaya actually between Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Soylu?

-When you say Minister, Tayyip Erdoğan comes to mind. As a politician, couldn't Soylu have carried out the orders he gave; can't we think that way? Because didn't it reflect on the public that some information delivered to the address was wanted to be covered up? Right now, if Recep Tayyip Erdoğan went down to the street and took the public behind him, he would shatter the organized crime feudal lords while walking on the road. Not one of them could live alive, but he doesn't, he doesn't want to.

WHO PARDONED THE HİZBULLAH TERROR ORGANIZATION OFFICIALS?

Tayyip Erdoğan's greatest feature is that he likes criminal files. He caresses them, who pardoned the Hizbullah terror organization officials? What did he use to pardon them? Before that, he used the courts. Can these be accepted? Can a state established with freedom and democracy, with justice and security infrastructure, accept this? It is impossible.

-As much as there are names related to the mafia in the police and judiciary, it is also obvious that there is a sect and community structure within the police and judiciary. These various frames were reflected in the public. Isn't this also very dangerous?

-We saw the danger of that in the FETÖ operations. Fetullah Gülen, whatever young person had a high IQ; they were taken through schools, educated. They were educated at every level. The brains of those young people were washed. We saw the same in Iraq.

Tantan also reminded of the words of the Menzil sheikh and his words that he is the "authority of pardon".

MENZİL MEMBERS

Upon Mollaveisoğlu's reminder that Menzil members are within the state, the judiciary, and the ministries, Tantan continued his words as follows:

-Who is using them then? Instead of dealing with large masses of people, who could be the power that dominates their institutional structures in the country's administration through one person? Is it a global structure? That danger exists in Turkey. I am stating this because it is in the state's archive; we had a tremendous study done so that the financial assets of these structures, especially, would still be revealed. That study is in the ministry. It is in the relevant institutions. They can work to prevent the structure.

THE ASYLUM SEEKER ISSUE

-Syrians are seen as a National Security threat. The fact that those fighters, who are very clearly fighting on behalf of America in Afghanistan, are scattered all over Turkey is seen as a national security problem. What do you think?

Where does our border pass? Where is the border of a Turkey that will enter the European Union? Greece or Iran? Now it has become Greece, initially it was Iran.

"A GOVERNMENT THAT IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH TURKISH IDENTITY"

-You are saying that the security of the European Union and the West starts from Iran. It was seen as the border separating the West from the Middle East. Now the border has shifted to Greece.

-There is a government in Turkey that is uncomfortable with the Turkish identity, that is clear. There is a global structure that is uncomfortable with the Turkish identity. Since the Saka and Scythians, since the Huns, there is no place where the Turkish identity does not exist.

-Is the Syrian migration actually part of a plan that distances Turkey from the Turkish identity?

-The construction of those containers before the Syrians arrived is not a coincidence. Is it a good sign that those armed forces raised in Afghanistan, who appear to be enemies of Iran and America, are being moved to the Turkish border, especially as a delivery to the address? Turkey's acceptance and ownership of it; benefiting from shepherd flocks. The nesting of Afghans in Turkey, small and medium-sized enterprises giving them jobs, and their accumulation of capital is not a coincidence.

-Do you see it as a danger?

-The West has an attitude against the growth of the Turkish identity. No one can eliminate the Turkish identity. Turkey urgently needs to tear up the readmission agreement.

Tantan ended his words by emphasizing the strong staff of the 12punto family and saying that he is ready to provide all kinds of support.

Click to watch the interview on Youtube.